22nd September Software Testing Jobs

SENIOR SOFTWARE TEST ENGINEER

Experience : 5 to 8 year(s)
Location : Pune

Job Description
PRI Global is a leading-edge workforce, information technology, cyber security, and innovative business solutions company. PRI Global was established in 1997 in St. Louis, Missouri with locations in California, New Jersey, India, and the Philippines. At PRI Global, every employee has a stake in the companys success. Everyone is team-driven and operates to put collective goals ahead of everything else. Our employees adhere to a core set of values and guiding principles and takes a pledge to the company.
I am Swati Kulkarni your Sr Talent acquisition specialist working for PRI and operates from Viman Nagar, Pune.
We at PRI are hiring for Senior Software Test Engineer for Pune, MH
Please find below the details of the same

Overview
Push Payments Development team owns a number of applications, primarily focusing on the Client Send application.
Client send is an API based application which primarily focuses on P2P, Disbursement and cross border transactions.
This position will be responsible for driving best practices and automated testing within Push Payments team to deliver applications and solutions that meet the needs of our stakeholders.
Are you passionate about building new technology services and interested in sharing that knowledge and passion with others?
Do you love to solve problems and find creative solutions?
Do you want to be part of an agile software development, collaborative environment?
Role
Participate in requirements review/story elaborations and testing activities to deliver high quality products and incremental value with every iteration.
Document test plans and acceptance criteria using Rally or similar life cycle management tools.
Develop test scripts and perform automated and manual exploratory testing to ensure software meets business and security requirements and established best practices.
Leverage available tools and frameworks to produce durable tests and avoid application fragility.
Follow through to ensure defects are reported and escalated appropriately.
All About You
Bachelor’s degree in Information Systems, Information Technology, Computer Science, Engineering or equivalent work experience.
Expertise knowledge using Selenium and any BDD framework (Cucumber, Jasmine or JBehave).
Intermediate Knowledge in REST API testing and knowledge of any API automation framework (Restassured, Spock or Karate).
Intermediate Knowledge of StormRunner or other performance testing tools.
Intermediate knowledge in core Java, Groovy, Node.js, and ReadyAPI.
Advanced experience writing user stories and acceptance criteria.
Strong communication and problem-solving skills.
Experience with software development methodologies, particularly with Agile/Scrum methodologies.

If the opportunity interests you, please reach out to me on [email protected]
If you could help us in passing on the opportunity to the job seekers , we would be grateful.
Salary: Not Disclosed by Recruiter
Industry:IT-Software / Software Services
Functional Area:IT Software – Application Programming, Maintenance
Role Category:Programming & Design
Role:Testing Engineer
Employment Type:Full Time, Permanent

Key Skills
JavaRESTSOAP UIAPI TestingAutomation TestingSelenium

Apply: 


ASSOCIATE ENGINEER SOFTWARE TEST

Company : Rockwell Automation
Experience : 2 – 4 years
Location : Pune

Job description
Position Summary
The Software Test Engineer participates in the testing activities for industry-leading commercial software known for its innovation and usability. In particular high performance real-time scalable features based on Rockwell?s Manufacturing Execution System (MES) that are often integrated with machine automation and control systems as well as ERP software.
Assignments include participation in requirements development, architectural design of automated test systems, effort estimation, design, coding, and verification of automated test systems in all stages of the software development lifecycle.
This role includes collaboration with multiple global cross-functional teams and requires strong communications skills and ability to work effectively in the large project teams.
Joining Rockwell Automation Software Development group allows to become part of a team that is committed to use reliable and well-thought-out engineering and software development practices (such as Agile/SCRUM and SAFe) as well as open and direct communications, honesty and respect..

About department
CVB Software – Design center responsible for architecture and development of various visualization and information software products supporting digital transformation and operational efficiencies of companies in many industrial sectors.

Qualifications
Essential Functions
Executes and maintains tests
Participates in reviews of documents and test cases
Develops automated tests, monitors the results and reports software defects
Develops test documentation required by software development process
Supports the team in functional and system requirements analysis required to design and verify added and changed functionality
Provides work estimates and status reports as requested.
Maintains adequate interaction to ensure assigned tasks are prioritized appropriately.
Facilitates effective communication both within local team as well as with remote stakeholders

Desired Qualifications
Bachelor?s degree in Computer Science, Computer Engineering, Electrical Engineering, or equivalent
Experience on tester position in a software product development environment
Familiarity with test automation and scripting languages (preferred Marathon or Selenium)
Familiarity with test management tools (e.g. qTest)
Familiarity with virtualized environments, distributed computing, load balancing/sharing
Familiarity with common development tools as Eclipse, SVN, GitLab, JUnit, JIRA, Jenkins, ANT and Maven
Good interpersonal, verbal and written communication skills
Familiar with agile development processes
Communicative English, that enables collaboration with global team
RoleSoftware Developer
Industry TypeConstruction, Engineering, Cement, Metals
Functional AreaIT Software – Application Programming, Maintenance
Employment TypeFull Time, Permanent
Role CategoryProgramming & Design
Education
UG :B.Tech/B.E. in Computers
PG :Post Graduation Not Required
Key Skills
Technical product configurationc++CdesignMySQLJavaScriptintegration PHPHTMLTesting

Apply:


SENIOR ENGINEER SOFTWARE TEST

Company : Rockwell Automation
Experience : 3 – 7 years
Location : Pune

Job description
Position Summary
The Senior Software Test Engineer participates in the testing activities for industry-leading commercial software known for its innovation and usability. In particular high performance real-time scalable features based on Rockwell?s Manufacturing Execution System (MES) that are often integrated with machine automation and control systems as well as ERP software.
Assignments include participation in requirements development, architectural design of automated test systems, effort estimation, design, coding, and verification of automated test systems in all stages of the software development lifecycle.
This role includes collaboration with multiple global cross-functional teams and requires strong communications skills and ability to work effectively in the large project teams.
Joining Rockwell Automation Software Development group allows to become part of a team that is committed to use reliable and well-thought-out engineering and software development practices (such as Agile/SCRUM and SAFe) as well as open and direct communications, honesty and respect..
About department
CVB Software – Design center responsible for architecture and development of various visualization and information software products supporting digital transformation and operational efficiencies of companies in many industrial sectors.

Qualifications
Essential Functions
Designs, creates, executes and maintains tests
Participates in reviews of documents, designs and test cases
Develops automated tests, monitors the results and reports software defects
Develops test documentation required by software development process
Supports the team in functional and system requirements analysis required to design and verify added and changed functionality
Provides work estimates and status reports as requested.
Maintains adequate interaction to ensure assigned tasks are prioritized appropriately.
Facilitates effective communication both within local team as well as with remote stakeholders

Desired Qualifications
Bachelor?s degree in Computer Science, Computer Engineering, Electrical Engineering, or equivalent
At least 3 years of experience on tester position in a software product development environment
Experience with test automation and scripting languages (preferred Marathon or Selenium)
Knowledge in test management tools (e.g. qTest)
Knowledge of virtualized environments, distributed computing, load balancing/sharing
Familiarity with common development tools as Eclipse, SVN, GitLab, JUnit, JIRA, Jenkins, ANT and Maven
Domain knowledge in the field of Industrial Automation including MES applications
Good interpersonal, verbal and written communication skills
Familiar with agile development processes
Communicative English, that enables collaboration with global team
Key methodologies/ technologies in the project: Java EE, Java Swing, JavaScript, SQL Server / Oracle, Test Automation, Continuous Delivery, SCRUM

RoleTesting Engineer
Industry TypeConstruction, Engineering, Cement, Metals
Functional AreaIT Software – QA & Testing
Employment TypeFull Time, Permanent
Role CategoryProgramming & Design
Education
UG :B.Tech/B.E. in Computers
PG :Post Graduation Not Required
Key Skills
QualitySoftware TestingTesting

Apply:


Software Testing Engineer

Company : BlazeDream Technologies(P)Ltd
Experience : 4 – 6 years
Location : Chennai

Job description
Responsibilities
At least 4-years experience in Manual testing of web appliction and mobile software products
Should be OK to work on shift basis
Well versed in creating Test plan, developing test cases/scripts and establishing Test setup
Should have good experience in working on scripting, compatibility testing
Hands-on with Test report preparation, defect tracking and associated workflows
At least one year experience of testing mobile applications
Understanding of ecommerce product deployment lifecycle, interoperability, migrations, and software release/patch upgrades
Good understanding of Testing life cycle, testing phases
Automation skill on Selenium/Web driver.
Experience in testing Web services, SOAP UI Pro, APIs (REST/SOAP) Good to have
Expertise in agile and waterfall delivery, life-cycle management tools (JIRA/Rally/Rational
Concert/Quality Center), software testing standards, methods and conventions
Should be strong in Team-Management and work as a Task force
Good communication skills (verbal & written). Should be able to convey the message to other teams.
Must have an expert in Leadership skills & Team handling
Technology orientation. Able to work independently for the assigned tasks. Energetic and enthusiastic and take ownership to the tasks.
RoleTesting Engineer
Industry TypeIT-Software, Software Services
Functional AreaIT Software – QA & Testing
Employment TypeFull Time, Permanent
Role CategoryProgramming & Design
Education
UG :B.Tech/B.E. in Computers
PG :Post Graduation Not Required
Key Skills
AutomationAutomation testingWeb servicesSOAP UIAgileSeleniumManagementJIRATesting

Apply: 


Staff Software Dev Engineer in Test – Security and Governance

Company : Cloudera, Inc.
Experience : 9 – 14 years
Location : Bengaluru, karnataka

Job Description:
The Cloudera Quality Engineering Team is looking for exceptionally talented software engineer, to deliver continuous improvement our security analytics and the other products that we provide to our customers. You will do this through your deep understanding of security automation tools, SIEM, test methodologies for distributed software, and customer focus.

Requirements
Lead/contribute to engineering efforts from planning and organization to execution and delivery to solve complex engineering problems in quality and development.
Design and build advanced automated testing framework, tools and automated test suites, in Python (pytest), Shell, Java (TestNG/JUnit).
Understanding on Security test a variety of open source big data technologies in order to offer a centralized tool for security monitoring and analysis.
Should worked on log aggregation, full packet capture indexing, storage, advanced behavioral analytics and data enrichment, while applying the most current threat-intelligence information to security telemetry within a single platform.
Good knowledge of test methodologies, creating test cases and test plans.
Define the optimum suites for sanity, regression, smoke, deployment verification etc., and advanced aspects of system testing automation.
Debugging, and deploying software for highly scaled cluster applications, involving thousands of servers, or enterprise applications involving large data centers.

Preferred Qualifications:
BS/MS in Computer Science or related field
9 to 16yrs years experience test development, automation tools development, and/or data center administration.
Mine and analyze data from product code base and automation to enhance quality. Develop automated tests for web, APIs and performance.
Excellent communication and collaboration skills.
Ability to work effectively both independently and as part of a team. Doesn?t let things fall through the cracks.
Working knowledge of Hadoop ecosystem and applications is an added advantage.

RoleSoftware Developer
Industry TypeIT-Software, Software Services
Functional AreaIT Software – Application Programming, Maintenance
Employment TypeFull Time, Permanent
Role CategoryProgramming & Design
Education
UG :B.Tech/B.E. in Computers
PG :Post Graduation Not Required
Key Skills
Manager Quality AssuranceTesting toolsHadoopJavascriptSeleniumOpen sourceTestingSQLAndroidPython

Apply:


Senior Software Development Engineer in Test – Storage

Company : Cloudera, Inc.
Experience : 6 – 10 years
Location : Bengaluru, tamil nadu

Job Description:
We are looking for a motivated and experienced Software Quality Engineer to join our Cloudera Storage Quality Engineering team to deliver continuous improvement for the storage products. The Storage team is powered by open-source apache projects like HDFS, Ozone, HBase, Phoenix and Zookeeper. The team?s primary goal is to test highly available distributed file systems / object stores. You will do this through your deep understanding of automation tools, test methodologies for distributed software, and customer focus.

Requirements
Lead/contribute to engineering efforts from planning and organization to execution and delivery to solve complex engineering problems in quality and development.
Design and build advanced automated testing framework, tools, and automated test suites, in Python (pytest), Java (TestNG/JUnit).
Understanding of a variety of open source big data technologies.
Good knowledge of test methodologies, creating test cases and test plans.
Define the optimum suites for sanity, regression, smoke, deployment verification and advanced aspects of system testing automation.
Debugging, and deploying software for highly scaled cluster applications, involving thousands of servers, or enterprise applications involving large data centers.
Provide valuable fixes to our product development teams to the issues you?ve found during exhaustive test runs
Work with product and field teams to make sure our customer simulations match the expectations and can provide valuable feedback to our customers
Develop automation to expand coverage and prevent regressions
Be a part of a great culture – Transparent and open meritocracy. Everybody is always thinking of better ways to do things, and coming up with ideas that make a difference. We build our culture to be the best workplace in our careers.

Preferred Qualifications
BS/MS in Computer Science or related field.
6-10 years of experience in test development, automation tools development, and/or data center administration.
Strong knowledge in at least 1 of the following languages: Java / Python
Mine and analyze data from product code base and automation to enhance quality. Develop automated tests for web, APIs and performance.
Excellent communication and collaboration skills. Ability to work effectively both independently and as part of a team.
Confidence with Linux environments
Working knowledge of the Hadoop ecosystem, Big Data is an added advantage.
Ability to identify critical weak spots in distributed software systems
Experience in developing automated test cases and test plans
Ability to deal with distributed systems
Ability to work independently on multiple tasks
Self-driven & motivated, with a strong work ethic and a passion for problem solving
Innovate, automate and break the code

RoleSoftware Developer
Industry TypeIT-Software, Software Services
Functional AreaIT Software – Application Programming, Maintenance
Employment TypeFull Time, Permanent
Role CategoryProgramming & Design
Education
UG :B.Tech/B.E. in Computers
PG :Post Graduation Not Required
Key Skills
JavaStaff Software EngineerAPIPython

Apply:


Software Test Engineer II

Company : OSI Systems Pvt Ltd
Experience : 3 – 8 years
Location : Hyderabad

Job description
The Software Test Engineer is responsible for debugging software products through the use of systematic tests to develop, apply, and maintain quality standards. Part of the software QA team, whose job is to ensure our products meet specifications, customer expectations, and all QMS/regulatory requirements. It is an important part of delivering our mission to provide quality products that meet the needs of the caregiver and the patient.

Job Description
Evaluate, develop and execute test plans and strategies.
Analyze, develop, maintain, and upgrade test standards and procedures.
Write, implement, and report status for system test cases for testing, to assist in debugging and modification of software. Document test execution. Analyze test cases to ensure functionality and recommend corrective action.
Design and create software test harnesses or automated test scripts.
Maintain good documentation. Provide regular progress reports. File issues/bugs with accurate details.
Ensure all QMS and regulatory requirements are met.
Participate in the review of requirements and designs.
Evaluate software designs to understand best test implementations.
Complete assigned tasks on-time and in accordance with the appropriate process.
Continue to advance skills professionally and technically.
Uphold the Company s core values of Integrity, Innovation, Accountability, and Teamwork.
Demonstrate behavior consistent with the Company s Code of Ethics and Conduct.
It is the responsibility of every Spacelabs Healthcare employee to report to their manager or a member of senior management any quality problems or defects in order for corrective action to be implemented and to avoid recurrence of the problem.
Duties may be modified or assigned at any time to meet the needs of the business.
Job Qualifications REQUIREMENTS:
Bachelor s degree in computer science, Engineering or related field.
3+ year software testing experience. Experience in Medical devices is a plus.
Must be able to use PC and software testing tools.
Experience and strong knowledge of Microsoft OS and software practices written for those platforms are required.
Knowledge of commonly used concepts, practices, and procedures for software system testing.
Ability to understand configuration and setup of equipment for testing and development.
Good documentation skills and discipline.
Experience working positively and productively in a team environment. Highly collaborative
Proactive communicator, with good written and oral communication skills.
Ability to accomplish assigned tasks with moderate supervision.
Able to draw on past experience and judgment to make effective decisions.
RoleSoftware Developer
Industry TypeIT-Software, Software Services
Functional AreaIT Software – Embedded, EDA, VLSI, ASIC, Chip Design
Employment TypeFull Time, Permanent
Role CategoryProgramming & Design
Education
UG :Any Graduate in Any Specialization
PG :Post Graduation Not Required
Key Skills
Computer scienceTest scriptsTesting toolsAerospaceDebuggingTest executionHealthcareTest casesmicrosoftMonitoring

Apply: 


Software Test Engineer Openings For Experienced Mechanical Engineers

Company : Everglades Technologies Pvt Ltd
Experience : 3 – 5 years
Location : Visakhapatnam

Job description
Everglades is looking for young and dynamic Mechanical engineers to work as Software Test Engineers at their Visakhapatnam office to test world’s most advanced Cloud CAD, PDM and PLM software’s.
This job is only for MALES. Only Vizag local candidates and candidates from Visakhapatnam will be considered.

Desired Candidate Profile
If you are a natural born engineer who loves engineering and math, likes to explore various engineering software’s, posses critical observation skills, have strong analytical abilities, logical thinking and problem solving skills then this job is for you.
Experience with one or more CAD software’s like CATIA, NX, Creo, SolidWorks, Inventor etc is a definite plus. No Software programming experience is required. Please indicate your current salary along with your resume.
Experience: 3 to 5 years
Salary: Not a Constraint for Right Candidate
Areas of experience: Product design, Machine tool design, Automobile design, Aerospace design, Piping & Routing Design etc
Qualification: B.Tech or above from a reputed institute

RoleTesting Engineer
Industry TypeIT-Software, Software Services
Functional AreaIT Software – Application Programming, Maintenance
Employment TypeFull Time, Permanent
Role CategoryProgramming & Design
Education
UG :B.Tech/B.E. in Automobile, Aviation, Mechanical
PG :Post Graduation Not Required
Doctorate :Doctorate Not Required
Key Skills
Test EngineeringCATIAProduct DesignTool DesignCADSoftware TestingAutomobile DesignNXProduction & Testing EngineerSolid WorksPLMAerospaceProductionPDMAerospace Design EngineerCreoMechanical EngineeringMachine Tool DesigningInventor

Apply: 


Software Tester – Selenium, Software Testing ( manual automation )

HR Innovation Group
Hiring for Leading Client
Experience : 1 – 6 years
Location : Pune

Job description
Roles and Responsibilities
Writing test plans, comprehensive test cases and test scenarios
• Analyze and identify test scenarios, execute test cases, and analyze results
• Help Development Team troubleshoot issues by writing detailed bug reports
• Good exposure to testing life cycle and bugs life cycle
• Work on different modules/ apps of ERP and should have basic understanding of ERP systems
• Response to Customer and provide demo after testing
• Work with cross-functional teams
• Defect Reporting
Skills
• Experience in Odoo/ open source ERP projects will be added advantage
• Good communication and presentation skills
• Knowledge of Manual testing, Automation Testing and Security testing.

Location: Pune,Baner

RoleTesting Engineer
Industry TypeIT-Software, Software Services
Functional AreaIT Software – QA & Testing
Employment TypeFull Time, Permanent
Role CategoryProgramming & Design
Education
UG :B.Tech/B.E. in Any Specialization
PG :Any Postgraduate in Any Specialization
Doctorate :Doctorate Not Required
Key Skills
OdooQADefect ReportingQTPManual testingTestingopen sourceAutomation TestingOdoo testingSecurity testingERP projects

Apply:


Job| Hiring Software Testing Trainers at Arich Infotech

Company : Arich Infotech Pvt. Ltd.
Experience : 1 – 6 years
Salary : ₹ 3,00,000 – 7,00,000 P.A.
Location : Chennai, Pune, Bengaluru, Hyderabad, Kolkata

Job description
Dear Trainer, We are hiring 1-7 year of Experience Manual & Automation Software Testing Trainer’s to conduct Freshers Induction Batches ( Online / Classroom Mode) for our I.T. MNC Client. .
Job Locations – Pune /Chennai/Bangalore/Hyderbad/Kolkata
RoleTrainer
Industry TypeEducation, Teaching, Training
Functional AreaTeaching, Education, Training, Counselling
Employment TypeFull Time, Permanent
Role CategoryTeachers
Education
UG :B.Tech/B.E. in Any Specialization
PG :M.Tech in Any Specialization, MCA in Any Specialization, MS/M.Sc(Science) in Any Specialization
Key Skills
Automation TestingManual Testing

Apply:


QA/ Software Tester

Company : Kansoftech
Experience : 0 – 5 years
Location : Pune, Delhi NCR, Hyderabad

Job description
Candidate should have good knowledge in Manual Testing & Automation Testing Concepts
Must have strong knowledge in OOPs and Core Java Basics
Database Knowledge is required
Have good communication skills
Analytical mind & problem-solving skills
Required Candidate profile
Review and analyze system specifications
Analyze and identify test scenarios
Execute test cases and analyze results
Defect Reporting
Help Development Team troubleshoot issues by writing detailed bug reports
Work with cross-functional teams.
RoleTesting Engineer
Industry TypeIT-Software, Software Services
Functional AreaIT Software – Application Programming, Maintenance
Employment TypeFull Time, Permanent
Role CategoryProgramming & Design
Education
UG :Diploma in Any Specialization, Any Graduate in Any Specialization
PG :PG Diploma in Any Specialization, Any Postgraduate in Any Specialization
Doctorate :Any Doctorate in Any Specialization, Doctorate Not Required
Key Skills
QATest EngineeringRegression Testingsoftware testingTraineeautomation testingquality assurancemanual testingFresherQTPFunctional TestingTesting

Apply:


Software Tester

Experience : 2 to 7 years
Location : Mumbai

Job Description

Excellent Opportunity to join our amazing, innovative international team! We are looking for talented and dynamic Software Testers. If you are interested in hearing more about this great opportunity, please apply today and one of our experienced recruiters will contact you immediately.
Your challenge:
As a Software Tester, you will be working with test management tools and the Atlassian software suite. You will identify defects and bugs and give feedback to the development team and managers. You’ll create and maintain automated test scenarios for our web and desktop applications.
What you need to know:
Experience : 2-9 years
(.NET 4.5) SQL knowledge
Fluent English

Required Candidate profile
Who you are
You are a fast learner and can think out-of-the-box
You have creative visualization, critical thinking.
You are familiar with concepts of TDD, Functional Programming and Design Patterns
You like teamwork and are passionate about your work and code quality
AvenDATA Offers

Professional working environment in highly-collaborative and supportive team active rewards
Periodic bonuses based on each individual performance

Salary: Not Disclosed by Recruiter
Industry: IT-Software / Software Services
Functional Area: IT Software – Application Programming, Maintenance
Role Category: Programming & Design
Role: Software Developer
Employment Type: Full Time, Permanent
Keyskills
test scenariossoftware testingtest managemententity frameworkc #sqlMS SQLSoftware Developmentweb technologiesasp.netC#.NetMySQLsoftware tester

Apply:


Senior Software Test Engineer (2+)

Company : Comfyi Solution
Experience : 2 – 7 years
Salary : ₹ 2,00,000 – 7,00,000 P.A.
Location : Chennai

Job description
Responsible to Identify Test Data, Execute Test Conditions, Resolve errors, Raise Software Error
candidates with 2 year real time exp only need to apply.
Walk-in immediately for an interview if match with the criteria to the below venue with your CV.

Required Candidate profile
To work in manual testing & to associate with the team.Leadership skills with problem solving Required
Experience in testing Techniques in manual for a minimum of 2 years real time
knowledge or Experience with automation tools could also apply
RoleTesting Engineer
Industry TypeIT-Software, Software Services
Functional AreaIT Software – QA & Testing
Employment TypeFull Time, Permanent
Role CategoryProgramming & Design
Education
UG :Any Graduate in Any Specialization, Graduation Not Required
PG :Any Postgraduate, Post Graduation Not Required
Doctorate :Any Doctorate in Any Specialization, Doctorate Not Required
Key Skills
Test EngineeringAutomationTeam leadseleniumTest leadtestingManualManual Testingqtpsoftware Testerquality

Apply:


Hiring For a role of Software Test Architect – Hyderabad Joining

Company : Acara Solutions Inc
Experience : 12 – 17 years
Location : Hyderabad

Job description
Hi,
Please find the details below
Skills – Software testing, C/C++, Processor/X86
Should be able to come up with test plans along with estimates and risks
Should understand and able to write assembly code and debug
Strategic planning to meet the organization goals and to use resources optimally
Parallel programming ability and thread level debugging.
RoleTechnical Architect
Industry TypeIT-Software, Software Services
Functional AreaIT Software – Application Programming, Maintenance
Employment TypeFull Time, Permanent
Role CategoryProgramming & Design
Education
UG :Any Graduate in Any Specialization
PG :Any Postgraduate in Any Specialization
Key Skills
C++CProcessorX86Software Testing

Apply:


 

G C Reddy

G C Reddy, Working as a Software Testing Trainer in Hyderabad, India.

You may also like...